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> <channel><title>Comments on: Technology scares me, let me stay backwards!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/</link> <description>Citizen of the Internet</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:41:49 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-49744</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:09:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dushkin.org/?p=322#comment-49744</guid> <description>From our declaration of independence:
&quot;THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions&quot;Sadly, this never formed a constitution.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From our declaration of independence:<br /> &#8220;THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions&#8221;</p><p>Sadly, this never formed a constitution.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tass</title><link>http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-49743</link> <dc:creator>Tass</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:53:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dushkin.org/?p=322#comment-49743</guid> <description>Heck, I wish I could say that about any country with a straight face.. : P</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, I wish I could say that about any country with a straight face.. : P</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dushkin</title><link>http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-49742</link> <dc:creator>dushkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:41:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dushkin.org/?p=322#comment-49742</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Israel is a country based on values of freedom and liberty.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Wish I could say that with a straight face. :D</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Israel is a country based on values of freedom and liberty.</p></blockquote><p>Wish I could say that with a straight face. :D</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-49741</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:34:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dushkin.org/?p=322#comment-49741</guid> <description>Technology doesn&#039;t scare me.
It&#039;s incorrectly implementing technology that scares me.
As a security specialist, I&#039;ve seen dozens of cases where bad security practices have been catastrophic.
Israel has some of the worlds biggest security professionals, and many of them fear the new law.The objection in Israel isn&#039;t to implementing more secure ID cards, based on smart cards, or even on biometrics.
The issue is - there is no true reason for actually holding a centralized database with all this information.The Israeli government has proven time after time that it lacks the ability to protect its citizens&#039; privacy. Sensitive databases are exposed, released and even intentionally leaked.
Military records of celebrities get published, as do mental records.
It&#039;s not that we don&#039;t trust technology - we don&#039;t trust people.What we also don&#039;t trust, is the haste and lack of public scrutiny in this decision. Meir Shitrit, the member of Knesset that is actively and aggressively pushing this law, is doing so without allowing any true and meaningful discussion, including all the security, economical, and social meanings of this law (Can a citizen be forced to provide the government with his fingerprints? How about an Islamic woman who isn&#039;t allowed to show her face?)Israel is a country based on values of freedom and liberty.
While must of realize that some concessions must be made in order to ensure our freedom, and some liberties must be wavered in order to ensure others - the biometric database is the case of an unnecessary evil.I say yes to a smartcards as ID cards, and I&#039;ll even agree to biometrics on those cards - if implemented correctly.
A forced, centralized database of biometrics of all of Israel&#039;s citizens however - is a privacy and security disaster just waiting to happen.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology doesn&#8217;t scare me.<br /> It&#8217;s incorrectly implementing technology that scares me.<br /> As a security specialist, I&#8217;ve seen dozens of cases where bad security practices have been catastrophic.<br /> Israel has some of the worlds biggest security professionals, and many of them fear the new law.</p><p>The objection in Israel isn&#8217;t to implementing more secure ID cards, based on smart cards, or even on biometrics.<br /> The issue is &#8211; there is no true reason for actually holding a centralized database with all this information.</p><p>The Israeli government has proven time after time that it lacks the ability to protect its citizens&#8217; privacy. Sensitive databases are exposed, released and even intentionally leaked.<br /> Military records of celebrities get published, as do mental records.<br /> It&#8217;s not that we don&#8217;t trust technology &#8211; we don&#8217;t trust people.</p><p>What we also don&#8217;t trust, is the haste and lack of public scrutiny in this decision. Meir Shitrit, the member of Knesset that is actively and aggressively pushing this law, is doing so without allowing any true and meaningful discussion, including all the security, economical, and social meanings of this law (Can a citizen be forced to provide the government with his fingerprints? How about an Islamic woman who isn&#8217;t allowed to show her face?)</p><p>Israel is a country based on values of freedom and liberty.<br /> While must of realize that some concessions must be made in order to ensure our freedom, and some liberties must be wavered in order to ensure others &#8211; the biometric database is the case of an unnecessary evil.</p><p>I say yes to a smartcards as ID cards, and I&#8217;ll even agree to biometrics on those cards &#8211; if implemented correctly.<br /> A forced, centralized database of biometrics of all of Israel&#8217;s citizens however &#8211; is a privacy and security disaster just waiting to happen.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dushkin</title><link>http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-49740</link> <dc:creator>dushkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dushkin.org/?p=322#comment-49740</guid> <description>Hacking is &lt;a href=&quot;http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/appb.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;finding creative solutions to problems&lt;/a&gt;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hacking is <a href="http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/appb.html" rel="nofollow">finding creative solutions to problems</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yair</title><link>http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-49739</link> <dc:creator>Yair</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:00:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dushkin.org/?p=322#comment-49739</guid> <description>The concept of &quot;hacking&quot; means different things to different people...Software engineers think of hacking as &quot;breaking the encryption/signature&quot;.
To a person who&#039;s not an engineer, calling a government clerk and convincing her to make a change - which she&#039;s authorized to make - is a form of hacking.There&#039;s a very good chance that &quot;somebody screws up royally&quot;, as you put it. It&#039;s not very different from the current situation in Israel, and biometrics probably have nothing to do with it, but that&#039;s what the author seems to be scared of.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of &#8220;hacking&#8221; means different things to different people&#8230;</p><p>Software engineers think of hacking as &#8220;breaking the encryption/signature&#8221;.<br /> To a person who&#8217;s not an engineer, calling a government clerk and convincing her to make a change &#8211; which she&#8217;s authorized to make &#8211; is a form of hacking.</p><p>There&#8217;s a very good chance that &#8220;somebody screws up royally&#8221;, as you put it. It&#8217;s not very different from the current situation in Israel, and biometrics probably have nothing to do with it, but that&#8217;s what the author seems to be scared of.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dushkin</title><link>http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-49738</link> <dc:creator>dushkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:20:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dushkin.org/?p=322#comment-49738</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe the author doesn’t fear technology, but rather has zero faith in the ability of the Israeli government to employ appropriate security measures.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The issue of implementation is entirely separate from that of the database existing to begin with. I doubt (and that said, would rather not believe) that even this backwards poor excuse for a government is remotely capable of such an utterly pants-on-head retarded policy.Said lack of faith if is not entirely absent from the post, though it does focus on how &quot;every system can be &#039;hacked&#039;&quot; which is hardly focusing on the issue at hand.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe the author doesn’t fear technology, but rather has zero faith in the ability of the Israeli government to employ appropriate security measures.</p></blockquote><p>The issue of implementation is entirely separate from that of the database existing to begin with. I doubt (and that said, would rather not believe) that even this backwards poor excuse for a government is remotely capable of such an utterly pants-on-head retarded policy.</p><p>Said lack of faith if is not entirely absent from the post, though it does focus on how &#8220;every system can be &#8216;hacked&#8217;&#8221; which is hardly focusing on the issue at hand.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yair</title><link>http://www.dushkin.org/2009/07/21/technology-scares-me-let-me-stay-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-49737</link> <dc:creator>Yair</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:04:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dushkin.org/?p=322#comment-49737</guid> <description>While I don&#039;t agree with the referenced post, I believe the author doesn&#039;t fear technology, but rather has zero faith in the ability of the Israeli government to employ appropriate security measures.
The much-discussed biometric database will probably be built by the lowest bidder, checksums and digital signatures will be &quot;implemented at a later phase&quot;, and just about every clerk will have the authorization to add/delete/change records, or to export the entire database.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t agree with the referenced post, I believe the author doesn&#8217;t fear technology, but rather has zero faith in the ability of the Israeli government to employ appropriate security measures.<br /> The much-discussed biometric database will probably be built by the lowest bidder, checksums and digital signatures will be &#8220;implemented at a later phase&#8221;, and just about every clerk will have the authorization to add/delete/change records, or to export the entire database.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
